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  Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.

  jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.

  interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.

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  defender of truth

  ExWTslave said: "It's sad when people stop believing in the existence of God, automatically their humaneness disappear."
  
  http://thaumaturgical.com/a-big-list-of-atheist-charities/
  
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  http://www.salon.com/2014/02/11/20_amazing_quotes_from_atheists_that_prove_religion_isnt_necessary_for_a_meaningful_life_partner/
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  Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

  "imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

  apathy allows it.

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  defender of truth

  Dagney, I am actually an atheist myself. KateWild just made the interesting comment in the OP, and I thought it would be a basis for thought provoking discussion between both sides.
  Maybe it still can be.
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  FERNANDO, are you saying that God allows evil because people have not put into practice the words in the Gospels? Surely He could still step in and cure a dog that is dying painfully from cancer, for example? The dog cannot even read the Gospels.
  The suffering that God allows includes all living creatures, not just humans.
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  Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.

  jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.

  interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.

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  defender of truth

  (ExWTslave, my posts 439 and 440 have still not been replied to. Thanks)
  
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/282559/3/Atheists-and-JWs-are-on-the-same-footing#.U-s_fV2t-o8
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  Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

  "imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

  apathy allows it.

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  defender of truth

  Here it is:
  AndDontCallMeShirleyposted ~ 16 hours ago(8/12/2014)
  Post 3161 of 3167
  "If a lifeguard, or worse, a parent, stood by and 'indifferently' watched a child drown just a few feet away, when both the lifeguard or parent could easily save their life, that wouldn't be considered evil because they were not "deliberately" pushing the child down into the water?"
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/282559/4/Atheists-and-JWs-are-on-the-same-footing#.U-she12t-o8
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  Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

  "imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

  apathy allows it.

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  defender of truth

  OntheWayOut: Really? The key word there was 'why', why she thought that.
  So, if someone simply posted in this thread: 'God is not evil for allowing suffering which could be prevented', would you not ask them 'why?' ?.
  
  If you would feel the need to ask that, I would hope that you would apply the same standard to something you already agree with. For the record, I agree with Dagney, and ADCMS gave an excellent example on another thread of why it seems evil for God to be indifferent. I won't be replying to this thread again, lets see what others have to say.
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  Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

  "imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

  apathy allows it.

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  defender of truth

  Dagney: You didn't seem to be saying it was your opinion, it sounded like you were stating "it's evil" as a fact. I'm not challenging you, just hoping you might expand on why you think that. I guess this is a pointless topic anyway.
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  SecondRateMind, welcome to JWN!!! If you want to add your opinion to a thread talking about why God allows natural evil, as in animal suffering, feel free to check out the lengthy discussion here...
  
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/222352/1/Theists-why-does-God-allow-suffering#.U-qJ8F2t-o8
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  Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

  "imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

  apathy allows it.

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  defender of truth

  "It's evil to allow suffering when it can be prevented. It's plain ol' evil."
  Why is it evil? Maybe we are just unimportant in the grand scheme of things..
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  Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

  "imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

  apathy allows it.

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  defender of truth

  We are talking about any concept of God, not just Jehovah of the bible. If a God exists, and it is indifferent to our suffering, is it really evil?
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  Is God evil, just because he fails to prevent suffering?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a poster on another thread made the following comment, that really made me think.. it is about god: .

  "imo i would say [god is] not evil but just indifferent.

  apathy allows it.

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  defender of truth

  Tigersuit said: "if you have the ability to stop suffering and mayhem and dont do it, youre evil."
  Would you stop at every anthill in the world and give them food, if you were able? Or, if you're honest, would you not bother/ do something more interesting?
  Maybe we are like little ants.
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  130

  Atheists and JWs are on the same footing!

  by exWTslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  atheists believe that god should stop the large-scale injustice on earth; if he does'nt, then he does not exist.

  jws believe that god will intervene sometime in the last days!.

  interestingly, both throw themselves on their own expectation of soemthing god should or will do, yet in fact something god does not have to do.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  defender of truth

  Could we take this discussion to a new topic?
  Just a suggestion.
  
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/282601/1/Is-God-evil-just-because-he-fails-to-prevent-suffering